[757labs] fake or not?

Matt Glaves matt at glaves.org
Thu Mar 22 23:13:35 EDT 2012


Oh no you didn't.  Let me right wing SEO this thread.

ATF fast and the furious
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oh, and a tiger killed Kennedy.

That should do nicely.

matt

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Nathan McGuirt <nathan at meltphace.org>wrote:

> If you want real facts, not commie pinko liberal facts like they have in
> California.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
>
> > Foxnews is where we all go for facts...
> >
> > matt
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM, TJ <tj at 757.org (mailto:tj at 757.org)>
> wrote:
> > > Fox news says the make says its fake.
> > >
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/22/dutch-artist-admits-faking-viral-human-bird-wings-video/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/22/2012 10:00 AM, Jameson Dungan wrote:
> > > >
> http://www.gizmag.com/jarno-smeets-human-birdwings-video-cgi-fake/21899/
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Nathan McGuirt <
> nathan at meltphace.org (mailto:nathan at meltphace.org)> wrote:
> > > > > Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and video is
> easily doctored. It also makes no sense that the very flat surface of his
> 'wing' is luffing in the breeze, which to me would indicate that it's not
> generating any lift. At best this looks like someone with a hang glider and
> some 3d studio skills.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Steve Nelson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Wired thinks it's a hoax. They disproved this guy's resume, but
> didn't really disprove that his wings work.
> > > > > > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/human-bird-wings-hoax/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Trevor Lewis <
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com (mailto:trevorl.salad at gmail.com) (mailto:
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > No verified confirmations yet. I found the HUMO articles
> though:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.humo.be/actua/90061/jarno-smeets-fantast-of-marketeer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.humo.be/humo-archief/87891/jarno-smeets-bouwt-zijn-eigen-vleugels
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Google does a passable job of translation. The second one has
> an awesome olde tyme video of an early parachute failure. (Spoiler alert!
> 15" crater!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Dungan <
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com (mailto:jameson.dungan at gmail.com) (mailto:
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > it's real. I've seen other videos by him where it doesn't
> work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, <telmnstr at 757.org (mailto:
> telmnstr at 757.org) (mailto:telmnstr at 757.org)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.humanbirdwings.net/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I saw this on reddit and lots of people were calling fake.
> They were sayign that the surface of the wings didn't have visibile loading
> on them, as compared to when kites fly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But if you look at the wing, the upper area looks more
> rigid.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > People claimed they could see plain as day rotoscoping
> issues with the video, but I wasn't able to really detect anything.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The guy was flapping really hard and seemed really worked
> up over flying, when it was supposed to be electronically driven. So I
> don't get that either. And the wimote/seeduino/android combo seems a bit
> nutty.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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