[757labs] fake or not?

Matt Glaves matt at glaves.org
Fri Mar 23 01:04:41 EDT 2012


Top post in html with full reply.   TWUUG is so pissed right now.

matt



On Mar 22, 2012, at 9:47 PM, James Blandford <barron.james at gmail.com> wrote:

> What I want to know is why noone truncates their replies....
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> On Mar 23, 2012 12:25 AM, "Chad Merritt" <chad at merritt.org> wrote:
> I used three clubbed baby seals of fuel during my pilot training today. It was great.
> 
> Chad
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> From: Nathan McGuirt 
> Sent: Thu, 22/03/2012 11:41 PM
> To: 757labs at 757labs.org
> Subject: Re: [757labs] fake or not?
> 
> I'm surprised it's not quinoa powered. You could fuel it up at Trader Joes on your way home from getting your weekly pair of shoes from the Toms store.
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> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
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> > Nice try, I I recharge my fair trade lithium powered plugin hybrid with clean coal power.
> > 
> > matt
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> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nathan McGuirt wrote:
> > > You forgot Waco.
> > > 
> > > That's a pretty good list, did you send that from your ipad in your hybrid civic on your commute home from San Jose while sipping some Starbucks?
> > > 
> > > Dirty hippy. Why don't you go join the peace corps or something and quit spreading your communist anti-american propaganda on our mailing list.
> > > 
> > > Nathan
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> > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
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> > > > Oh no you didn't. Let me right wing SEO this thread.
> > > > 
> > > > ATF fast and the furious
> > > > first amendment
> > > > glenn beck
> > > > ann coulter
> > > > rush is right
> > > > ruby ridge
> > > > vince foster
> > > > echelon
> > > > 
> > > > oh, and a tiger killed Kennedy.
> > > > 
> > > > That should do nicely.
> > > > 
> > > > matt
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> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Nathan McGuirt wrote:
> > > > > If you want real facts, not commie pinko liberal facts like they have in California.
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> > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
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> > > > > > Foxnews is where we all go for facts...
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> > > > > > matt
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> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM, TJ wrote:
> > > > > > > Fox news says the make says its fake.
> > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/22/dutch-artist-admits-faking-viral-human-bird-wings-video/
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> > > > > > > On 3/22/2012 10:00 AM, Jameson Dungan wrote:
> > > > > > > > http://www.gizmag.com/jarno-smeets-human-birdwings-video-cgi-fake/21899/
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> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Nathan McGuirt wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and video is easily doctored. It also makes no sense that the very flat surface of his 'wing' is luffing in the breeze, which to me would indicate that it's not generating any lift. At best this looks like someone with a hang glider and some 3d studio skills.
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> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Steve Nelson wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > Wired thinks it's a hoax. They disproved this guy's resume, but didn't really disprove that his wings work.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/human-bird-wings-hoax/
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> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Trevor Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > No verified confirmations yet. I found the HUMO articles though:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.humo.be/actua/90061/jarno-smeets-fantast-of-marketeer
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> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.humo.be/humo-archief/87891/jarno-smeets-bouwt-zijn-eigen-vleugels
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> > > > > > > > > > > Google does a passable job of translation. The second one has an awesome olde tyme video of an early parachute failure. (Spoiler alert! 15" crater!)
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Dungan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's real. I've seen other videos by him where it doesn't work.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.humanbirdwings.net/
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw this on reddit and lots of people were calling fake. They were sayign that the surface of the wings didn't have visibile loading on them, as compared to when kites fly.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you look at the wing, the upper area looks more rigid.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > People claimed they could see plain as day rotoscoping issues with the video, but I wasn't able to really detect anything.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > The guy was flapping really hard and seemed really worked up over flying, when it was supposed to be electronically driven. So I don't get that either. And the wimote/seeduino/android combo seems a bit nutty.
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