[757labs] fake or not?

Dave dave.in.vb at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 23:43:43 EDT 2012


Silly tree hugging hippies.

أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي
الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً وَمِنَ
النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا
كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ


On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Nathan McGuirt <nathan at meltphace.org>wrote:

> I'm surprised it's not quinoa powered. You could fuel it up at Trader Joes
> on your way home from getting your weekly pair of shoes from the Toms store.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
>
> > Nice try, I I recharge my fair trade lithium powered plugin hybrid with
> clean coal power.
> >
> > matt
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Nathan McGuirt <nathan at meltphace.org(mailto:
> nathan at meltphace.org)> wrote:
> > > You forgot Waco.
> > >
> > > That's a pretty good list, did you send that from your ipad in your
> hybrid civic on your commute home from San Jose while sipping some
> Starbucks?
> > >
> > > Dirty hippy. Why don't you go join the peace corps or something and
> quit spreading your communist anti-american propaganda on our mailing list.
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh no you didn't. Let me right wing SEO this thread.
> > > >
> > > > ATF fast and the furious
> > > > first amendment
> > > > glenn beck
> > > > ann coulter
> > > > rush is right
> > > > ruby ridge
> > > > vince foster
> > > > echelon
> > > >
> > > > oh, and a tiger killed Kennedy.
> > > >
> > > > That should do nicely.
> > > >
> > > > matt
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Nathan McGuirt <
> nathan at meltphace.org (mailto:nathan at meltphace.org) (mailto:
> nathan at meltphace.org)> wrote:
> > > > > If you want real facts, not commie pinko liberal facts like they
> have in California.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Matt Glaves wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Foxnews is where we all go for facts...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM, TJ <tj at 757.org (mailto:
> tj at 757.org) (mailto:tj at 757.org) (mailto:tj at 757.org)> wrote:
> > > > > > > Fox news says the make says its fake.
> > > > > > >
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/22/dutch-artist-admits-faking-viral-human-bird-wings-video/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/22/2012 10:00 AM, Jameson Dungan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> http://www.gizmag.com/jarno-smeets-human-birdwings-video-cgi-fake/21899/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Nathan McGuirt <
> nathan at meltphace.org (mailto:nathan at meltphace.org) (mailto:
> nathan at meltphace.org) (mailto:nathan at meltphace.org)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and
> video is easily doctored. It also makes no sense that the very flat surface
> of his 'wing' is luffing in the breeze, which to me would indicate that
> it's not generating any lift. At best this looks like someone with a hang
> glider and some 3d studio skills.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Steve Nelson wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wired thinks it's a hoax. They disproved this guy's
> resume, but didn't really disprove that his wings work.
> > > > > > > > > >
> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/human-bird-wings-hoax/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Trevor Lewis <
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com (mailto:trevorl.salad at gmail.com) (mailto:
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com) (mailto:trevorl.salad at gmail.com) (mailto:
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > No verified confirmations yet. I found the HUMO
> articles though:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> http://www.humo.be/actua/90061/jarno-smeets-fantast-of-marketeer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> http://www.humo.be/humo-archief/87891/jarno-smeets-bouwt-zijn-eigen-vleugels
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Google does a passable job of translation. The second
> one has an awesome olde tyme video of an early parachute failure. (Spoiler
> alert! 15" crater!)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Dungan <
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com (mailto:jameson.dungan at gmail.com) (mailto:
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com) (mailto:jameson.dungan at gmail.com) (mailto:
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's real. I've seen other videos by him where it
> doesn't work.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, <telmnstr at 757.org(mailto:
> telmnstr at 757.org) (mailto:telmnstr at 757.org) (mailto:telmnstr at 757.org)
> (mailto:telmnstr at 757.org)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.humanbirdwings.net/
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw this on reddit and lots of people were
> calling fake. They were sayign that the surface of the wings didn't have
> visibile loading on them, as compared to when kites fly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you look at the wing, the upper area looks
> more rigid.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > People claimed they could see plain as day
> rotoscoping issues with the video, but I wasn't able to really detect
> anything.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The guy was flapping really hard and seemed really
> worked up over flying, when it was supposed to be electronically driven. So
> I don't get that either. And the wimote/seeduino/android combo seems a bit
> nutty.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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