[757labs] fake or not?

Jameson Dungan jameson.dungan at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 10:00:54 EDT 2012


http://www.gizmag.com/jarno-smeets-human-birdwings-video-cgi-fake/21899/

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Nathan McGuirt <nathan at meltphace.org>wrote:

> Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and video is easily
> doctored. It also makes no sense that the very flat surface of his 'wing'
> is luffing in the breeze, which to me would indicate that it's not
> generating any lift. At best this looks like someone with a hang glider and
> some 3d studio skills.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Steve Nelson wrote:
>
> > Wired thinks it's a hoax. They disproved this guy's resume, but didn't
> really disprove that his wings work.
> > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/human-bird-wings-hoax/
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Trevor Lewis <trevorl.salad at gmail.com(mailto:
> trevorl.salad at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > No verified confirmations yet. I found the HUMO articles though:
> > >
> > > http://www.humo.be/actua/90061/jarno-smeets-fantast-of-marketeer
> > >
> > >
> http://www.humo.be/humo-archief/87891/jarno-smeets-bouwt-zijn-eigen-vleugels
> > >
> > > Google does a passable job of translation. The second one has an
> awesome olde tyme video of an early parachute failure. (Spoiler alert! 15"
> crater!)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Dungan <
> jameson.dungan at gmail.com (mailto:jameson.dungan at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > it's real. I've seen other videos by him where it doesn't work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, <telmnstr at 757.org (mailto:
> telmnstr at 757.org)> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.humanbirdwings.net/
> > > > >
> > > > > I saw this on reddit and lots of people were calling fake. They
> were sayign that the surface of the wings didn't have visibile loading on
> them, as compared to when kites fly.
> > > > >
> > > > > But if you look at the wing, the upper area looks more rigid.
> > > > >
> > > > > People claimed they could see plain as day rotoscoping issues with
> the video, but I wasn't able to really detect anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > The guy was flapping really hard and seemed really worked up over
> flying, when it was supposed to be electronically driven. So I don't get
> that either. And the wimote/seeduino/android combo seems a bit nutty.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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