[757labs] Security Saturday?

[Dave Johnson]

Interesting wording here, it says that possession implies intent.
Maybe one of us can get a license and be the "lockpicking tools
custodian."

On 3/21/12, c flux <cyberfluxor at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Just thought I'd share if it's not already posted farther up in the
> thread...
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> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-94
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> § 18.2-94. Possession of burglarious tools, etc.
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> If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with
> intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he
> shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious
> tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer,
> shall
> be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.
>
>
> (Code 1950, § 18.1-87; 1960, c. 358; 1970, c. 587; 1975, cc. 14, 15.)
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> There was a case a few years ago where they attempted to charge a fellow of
> possessing "burglar tools" that consisted of a laptop replicating stolen
> credit cards. It was dismissed but they had a laundry list of other charges
> that stuck. I cannot find the case at this time but someone might manage to
> dig it up.
>
> - Matt
>
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:21:35 +0300
> From: solareon at gmail.com
> To: 757labs at 757labs.org
> Subject: Re: [757labs] Security Saturday?
>
> IANAL but they really only do something about it if you are caught breaking
> into something you don't own. It's like a 2 for 1 Burglary and Possession of
> Burglary Tools.
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Kevin Shaw <kevin.lee.shaw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I think VA is kind of iffy about  lockpicking tools. On the other hand
> physical and social security is fun.
>
> On Mar 20, 2012 8:09 PM, "Trevor Lewis" <trevorl.salad at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think it's important to not just look at digital security issues, but
> physical ones too. Most of my successful "hacks" were just social
> engineering, shoulder surfing, or riding someone's coat tails through a
> door.
>
>
>
> I would love an excuse to buy a lockpicking kit, but until I can get someone
> to show me the ropes...
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Eric G <eric at nixwizard.net> wrote:
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> On Mar 20, 2012 7:20 PM, "bryan seyffert" <cypher2301 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Also maybe we get into the grit of actually building a small network
>
>> from scratch then go from there to securing it then eventually try to
>
>> get into it.
> I work in the infosec field, and depending on the level of the group I would
> love to either teach or learn more... someone in this thread mentioned
> SecurityTube, and I've found that site to be a great resource as well
>
>
>
>
> Just the attempt at group learning and participating in some kind of a
> Hampton Roads infosec group would be a good experience I think
> If anyone's even vaguely interested (I make no claims on being awesome, I
> would enjoy teaching though) take a look at
> http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/ericgearhart to get a feel for "where I'm at" and
> if there are any topics anyone would be interested in seeing in a class
> (designing secure networks maybe?)
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>
>
>
> I'm completely open to learning too... if there are some security senseis
> out there I'd love to learn more
> --
>
> Eric
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