[757labs] Security Saturday?

Kevin Shaw kevin.lee.shaw at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 18:41:19 EDT 2012


I've been party to a lot of discussions around this lately, not just the
one brought up at Shmoocon - defense is very hard to teach. Some process,
and things like basic packet analysis, maybe not so much.  I would say I
wouldn't want this sort of thing being a "teach me to hack" sort of thing -
we all have various things we tweak and twiddle with regards to this,
hardware and software.
On Mar 20, 2012 6:30 PM, "Adam Crosby" <adam at uptill3.com> wrote:

> The hard part about this is getting a level of common knowledge.  You
> either need to already know assembly/C, or already know HTML/JS/SQL + a
> serverside language before you can even start talking about exploit
> development.
>
> Security is such a 'wide' topic - what would people want to see?  HR-ISSA
> does CISSP classes and group studies and stuff like that, and I'm unaware
> of much local talent in the 'exploit' market that would be willing/able to
> share their skills/knowledge.
> Defense is hard to teach without a background in systems administration,
> networking, and the like...
>
> Is that kind of demand there?
>
> --
> Adam
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
>
> When I recover more from the card deck size carcinoma that went all the
> way to the muscle I had removed last week, I will put up some things I can
> show up and talk about for this one. I really want to learn more exploit
> development skills outside of securitytube and corelan myself, sometimes
> collaborative learning us faster and much better than self taught reading
> or video.
> On Mar 20, 2012 4:25 PM, "bryan seyffert" <cypher2301 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> security saturday's.. teaching network security maybe packet captures
>> metasploit backtrack stuff like that!?
>>
>> On 3/20/12, Trevor Lewis <trevorl.salad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So we've got Microcontroller Monday, TCP Tuesdays, what about the rest
>> > of the week?
>> >
>> > Subnetting Sunday?
>> > WWWednesdays?
>> > Frag Friday?
>> > CIDR Saturday?
>> >
>> > Actually, doing a Wayback Wednesday would be cool. Dedicated to
>> > revisting/resurrecting old hardware and software. Token ring, twinax
>> > and an/uyk-7's FTW!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3/20/12, Bryan <cypher2301 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Cool that would be awsome. I'm supposed to work towards my sec plus so
>> >> more
>> >> network knowledge will def help.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G
>> >>
>> >> Adam Crosby <adam at uptill3.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>We hope to run this class twice a week - once after work on a week
>> night,
>> >>> and once on a weekend day (maybe Sunday?).  Hopefully, we'll be able
>> to
>> >>> fit everybody's schedule eventually!
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>Adam
>> >>>
>> >>>On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:54 AM, bryan seyffert wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Wish i could go.. unfortunately gotta work.. thus is life right?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> see you guys next time hopefully
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Adam Crosby <adam at uptill3.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hola,
>> >>>>> Based on a few previous message threads, and conversations at the
>> lab,
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> number of people have indicated they'd be interested in a
>> 'networking'
>> >>>>> class, in the style of micro-controller mondays.  So, starting THIS
>> >>>>> TUESDAY (March 20), 757 Labs will be running TCP Tuesdays, hosted by
>> >>>>> yours truly.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The first night will be 7:30PM-Whenever, with a focus on getting
>> >>>>> 'setup'
>> >>>>> to learn and run labs yourself.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please bring a non-crusty laptop (needs to be able to run a MIPS
>> >>>>> simulator - Core-series w/2GB of ram or better recommended).
>> >>>>> Linux/Windows/OS X *should* all work (I've not actually used Windows
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> this, but its 'supported').  No serial cables or other gear needed,
>> >>>>> yet.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Adam
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