[757labs] HackerSpaces in Space 2011

Fri Oct 21 23:26:56 EDT 2011

http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/lift.html

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:26 PM, matthew green <msg4real at gmail.com> wrote:
> Let me do the math
> 113.104 cubic ft or so
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Adam Crosby <adam at uptill3.com> wrote:
>> How much H2 do we need donated?  Is there a writeup on this whole project/deal?
>>
>> --
>> Adam
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:53 PM, matthew green wrote:
>>
>>> WE ARE GOING TO REUSE THINGS
>>>
>>> ALSO WE HAVE Donated a New Camera
>>>
>>> the expenses we may have are:
>>>
>>> Cost for balloon ($60) - SOMEONE from the group Is buying it after we
>>> get the size we need
>>> Cost for Hydrogen ($$$) - Trying to get it donated
>>>
>>> Keep in mind we have to calculate the MSRP for Donated items...
>>> WE have already ~$100 in for the Chips
>>>
>>> We Will post in the WIKI the current Items being used / Bought
>>> the biggest cost last year was the helium tank rental..
>>>
>>> Next Major Meeting Friday, November, 11th 2011
>>> In the meeting we will discuss the following:
>>> Launch Date
>>> What do we still need / to do, buy
>>> Who is each group
>>> Assemble the project
>>> Get ready for launch
>>>
>>> Everything that needs to get done between now and then Shall be sent
>>> on the mailing list ...
>>>
>>> I will try and Put the prices up for things we are going to reuse.....
>>>
>>> TODO... (may be incomplete)
>>> * Make PCB - Ethan
>>> * Calculate Item Cost for items on PCB
>>> * Make Parachute
>>> * Get a New Shell for the Payload
>>> * Calculate run time of CAMERA
>>> * Make cut-out (for payload)
>>> * Research Hydrogen Safety
>>> * Other things in Previous e-mail
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Adam Crosby <adam at uptill3.com> wrote:
>>>> 'Pooling money' before you even know what it is you'll need to buy is kind
>>>> of silly.  Why go through the pain of getting 20 people to chip in $10 or
>>>> whatever, if you end up only needing $50?
>>>> --
>>>> Adam
>>>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Trevor Lewis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually the *max* is $250, but they take off 0.5 points for every buck over
>>>> $150. Base point score for cost is 50 points, so if we want to maximize
>>>> score, we need to shoot for $150. We should have a pool of $250 available,
>>>> just in case, but only plan on using $150 of it.
>>>>
>>>> Might be easier to get 15 people to do $10 bucks. Either way, I'll throw in
>>>> a yuppie foodstamp. (That's a $20 for those of you that weren't part of the
>>>> problem during the dotcom bubble...) :)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Steve Nelson <snelson at webapper.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't make either day. But, I'm in, if...
>>>>> we can answer one, super-duper-crazy-important-outrageously-vital question
>>>>> that trumps every other design and engineering question. We only have one
>>>>> month to design, build and launch this balloon. If we can't answer this in
>>>>> the next week we should consider not even wasting our time. Are you ready?
>>>>> How are we going to pay for the balloon project?
>>>>> We need a budget of $250. Do we have 13 people ready to put $20 in
>>>>> each? I'll put the first $20 in, but only if 12 other people commit to it in
>>>>> the next week.
>>>>> Answer that question this weekend and I think we're golden. No one person
>>>>> should have a pay for this entire project.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Almost_There at COX.Net
>>>>> <Almost_There at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 757 Labs in Space;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how about both days
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Okay, I'll try to take notes tomorrow, make a summary, and post 'em
>>>>>> here for anyone that doesn't make it Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Good Luck!
>>>>>>    Ken_S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 08:15 PM 10/20/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We just have to remober is open hack night how about both days (some
>>>>>>> can one and not the other)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Almost_There at COX.Net
>>>>>>> <Almost_There at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 757 Labs in Space;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Someone at work was interested in helping out and she and her
>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>> want to come; I already told 'em Friday @ 19:00; if we're changing it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Saturday @ ??:?? please let me know tonight so I can tell her at work
>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Is it Friday @ 19:00, or Saturday sometime?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Good Luck!
>>>>>>>>    Ken_S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 03:23 PM 10/20/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now are we going to meet on saterday ? if so what time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Angus Hines <3aih at angushines.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> @Jessica TechShop in Durham has half of their second floor devoted
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> sewing
>>>>>>>>>> with all sorts of equipment from home model singer sewing  machines
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> huge industrial sail making sewing machines. And interestingly
>>>>>>>>>> enough,
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are the second hardest pieces of equipment to get time on the first
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> the LAZZOR !!! Just thought Id put my 2 cents in here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Angus Hines III
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 757 373 5366
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.angushines.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: 757labs-bounces at 757labs.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:757labs-bounces at 757labs.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jessica Ledbetter
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To: 757labs at 757labs.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [757labs] HackerSpaces in Space 2011
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, uncool Dave.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's a place in San Jose called TechShop [1]. Don't know if
>>>>>>>>>> anyone's
>>>>>>>>>> gone
>>>>>>>>>> there yet but it's amazing. So if you're in the area, I highly
>>>>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> least a tour or a day pass :) They have lots of equipment including
>>>>>>>>>> laser
>>>>>>>>>> cutters, vinyl cutter, silk screener, electronic stuff, and -- yes
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> sewing
>>>>>>>>>> machines. Every night I was there was very diverse in gender. I'm
>>>>>>>>>> sorry
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> I'm missing the jet pack making session.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trevor: great idea. Geeks, overall, are good peeps :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://techshop.ws
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Trevor Lewis
>>>>>>>>>> <trevorl.salad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oddly enough, I'm the one in the house that sews. My wife thought I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> crazy when I drew up the designs and ordered the parts for a tutu
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> LEDs
>>>>>>>>>> embedded in it for my 3 year old niece. What's better than a chance
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>> with some wearable technology *and* win best uncle ever?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think one of these nights I'll bring her to an open hack night,
>>>>>>>>>> so she
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> get over (or validate) her fear of geek gatherings. It would be
>>>>>>>>>> nice for
>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>> to have a better idea of what the lab is about. She would just be
>>>>>>>>>> bored
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> the Space meeting though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave <dave.in.vb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bring her with you. The lab is female friendly, we have a sewing
>>>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Trevor Lewis
>>>>>>>>>> <trevorl.salad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, as long as its largely outside of business hours I can do
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> about anything. Might generate wife-aggro, but she keeps saying I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> get out of the house...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM, c flux <cyberfluxor at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Correct, Saturday is the LAN Party day. We start around 1pm and go
>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>> midnight or so. We take up the front area, so if you wish to have a
>>>>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>>>>> there is plenty of room and seating upstairs and should be quiet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I plan to be at Open Hack Night on Friday and do not mind helping
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>>>>> comfortable space for the 757Labs in Space group as I arrange the
>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the LAN event.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - MattC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:08:30 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>> From: msg4real at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 757labs at 757labs.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [757labs] HackerSpaces in Space 2011
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday is the lan party but I can do saturday
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Trevor Lewis
>>>>>>>>>>> <trevorl.salad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I could do Saturday, but I'll be at work until at least 1600 on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:04 AM, matthew green
>>>>>>>>>>>> <msg4real at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have we come up with a date to meet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When: How about Friday 1ish - 5pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where: The Lab
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why: Because we need to get orginized
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How: who ... w/e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Steve Nelson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snelson at webapper.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the time it takes is just a matter of how much energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Logically applying 1KW should produce 10 times as much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gas as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100W.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to these guys 1KW will produce 35 cubic feet in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to fill a 100 cubic foot balloon will take about 18 hours. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cents/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KWH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a grand total of a $1.08.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/h2homesystem.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But... it's dangerous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Almost_There at COX.Net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Almost_There at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all it takes to make it is stick an anode and cathode in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (Recalling from research I did years ago): What you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is building an Electrolyser, not all that dissimilar from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home-made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery or fuel cell; it works, but VERY slowly, it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months) to generate enough gas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:29 AM 10/19/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The scoring seems to really be weighted toward the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably because they're trying to make a kit that kids
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should figure out what it will take to score 100 points on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. That is something we can very easily control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much cheaper is hydrogen to buy than helium? You know...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our own hydrogen. I don't know how you compress it and make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it takes to make it is stick an anode and cathode in a bowl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hydrogen and oxygen will bubble off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea how much electricity it would take... but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electricity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy cheap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:11 AM, <telmnstr at 757.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Magnetometer - tell the direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * GPS/altimeter -tell altitude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Wiki page - to state what we did (needs to be replicated in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> win)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * cam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * under 4 lb and under 300 umm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miss anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, every dollar above $150 counts against you, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $250 is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last year, I think the helium and balloon alone ran $100+.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counted the helium we used, the actual cost was over $100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We looked at offloading some of it into an aluminum 80cuft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scuba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tank I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had. I randomly had an adaptor for filling a specific scuba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o2 from a large tank which looked like it would do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wisely the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "K valve" fitting was sized differently. Most likely it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cautionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it's sized different for each gas so they can't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weren't able to safely save any of the excess purchased
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helium.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around I think balloon gas would be advisable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really for dropping off at the needed height, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> win.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, it's a challenge to meet the goals of the contest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HacDC followed up their contest entry with launches that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experamentative payloads with things like high definition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cameras.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another idea might be more of a schedule for the pictures to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conserve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Battery was a large cost as well. Last one took 4x lithium
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jessica Ledbetter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://jessicaledbetter.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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