[757labs] HackerSpaces in Space 2011

Thu Oct 20 09:33:46 EDT 2011

Honestly, as long as its largely outside of business hours I can do just
about anything. Might generate wife-aggro, but she keeps saying I need to
get out of the house...

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM, c flux <cyberfluxor at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Correct, Saturday is the LAN Party day. We start around 1pm and go until
> midnight or so. We take up the front area, so if you wish to have a meeting
> there is plenty of room and seating upstairs and should be quiet.
>
> I plan to be at Open Hack Night on Friday and do not mind helping to make
> a comfortable space for the 757Labs in Space group as I arrange the front
> for the LAN event.
>
> - MattC
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:08:30 -0400
> > From: msg4real at gmail.com
> > To: 757labs at 757labs.org
> > Subject: Re: [757labs] HackerSpaces in Space 2011
>
> >
> > Saturday is the lan party but I can do saturday
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Trevor Lewis <trevorl.salad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >  I could do Saturday, but I'll be at work until at least 1600 on
> Friday.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:04 AM, matthew green <msg4real at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Have we come up with a date to meet
> > >>
> > >> When: How about Friday 1ish - 5pm
> > >> Where: The Lab
> > >> Why: Because we need to get orginized
> > >> How: who ... w/e
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Steve Nelson <snelson at webapper.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > I think the time it takes is just a matter of how much energy you
> apply
> > >> > to
> > >> > it. Logically applying 1KW should produce 10 times as much gas as
> 100W.
> > >> > According to these guys 1KW will produce 35 cubic feet in about 6
> hours.
> > >> > So
> > >> > to fill a 100 cubic foot balloon will take about 18 hours. At 6
> cents/
> > >> > KWH
> > >> > that's a grand total of a $1.08.
> > >> > http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/h2homesystem.pdf
> > >> > But... it's dangerous.
> > >> > Steve
> > >> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Almost_There at COX.Net
> > >> > <Almost_There at cox.net>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Steve;
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >all it takes to make it is stick an anode and cathode in a bowl of
> > >> >> > water.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>     (Recalling from research I did years ago): What you're talking
> > >> >> about
> > >> >> is building an Electrolyser, not all that dissimilar from a
> home-made
> > >> >> battery or fuel cell; it works, but VERY slowly, it would take
> weeks
> > >> >> (if not
> > >> >> months) to generate enough gas.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At 09:29 AM 10/19/2011, you wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The scoring seems to really be weighted toward the documentation
> side.
> > >> >> Probably because they're trying to make a kit that kids could build
> > >> >> from. We
> > >> >> should figure out what it will take to score 100 points on the
> > >> >> documentation. That is something we can very easily control.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> How much cheaper is hydrogen to buy than helium? You know... we
> could
> > >> >> make
> > >> >> our own hydrogen. I don't know how you compress it and make it
> safe,
> > >> >> but all
> > >> >> it takes to make it is stick an anode and cathode in a bowl of
> water.
> > >> >> Hydrogen and oxygen will bubble off.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have no idea how much electricity it would take... but
> electricity is
> > >> >> crazy cheap.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Steve
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:11 AM, <telmnstr at 757.org> wrote:
> > >> >> * Magnetometer - tell the direction
> > >> >> * GPS/altimeter -tell altitude
> > >> >> *Wiki page - to state what we did (needs to be replicated in kits
> if we
> > >> >> win)
> > >> >> * cam
> > >> >> * test
> > >> >> * under 4 lb and under 300 umm
> > >> >> miss anything
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Remember, every dollar above $150 counts against you, and $250 is
> the
> > >> >> maximum.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Last year, I think the helium and balloon alone ran $100+. And only
> > >> >> counted the helium we used, the actual cost was over $100 for the
> gas
> > >> >> alone.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> We looked at offloading some of it into an aluminum 80cuft scuba
> tank I
> > >> >> had. I randomly had an adaptor for filling a specific scuba tank
> with
> > >> >> pure
> > >> >> o2 from a large tank which looked like it would do the trick, but
> > >> >> wisely the
> > >> >> "K valve" fitting was sized differently. Most likely it's a
> cautionary
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> where it's sized different for each gas so they can't be mixed up.
> So
> > >> >> we
> > >> >> weren't able to safely save any of the excess purchased helium.
> This
> > >> >> time
> > >> >> around I think balloon gas would be advisable.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm really for dropping off at the needed height, and playing the
> game
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> win.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Remember, it's a challenge to meet the goals of the contest. Those
> are
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> goals.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> HacDC followed up their contest entry with launches that carried
> the
> > >> >> cool
> > >> >> experamentative payloads with things like high definition video
> > >> >> cameras.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Another idea might be more of a schedule for the pictures to
> conserve
> > >> >> battery power.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Battery was a large cost as well. Last one took 4x lithium
> batteries.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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